January 8, 2009 11:41 AM PST

Live blog: Palm keynote at CES

by Ina Fried
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LAS VEGAS--We're live at the Venetian Ballroom, moments away from the unveiling of the long-awaited new phone platform from Palm.

Palm's Pre preview

Here's a rundown of the basics of the touch-screen smartphone Palm announced at CES Wednesday. For more details, read our summary here.

New WebOS operating system
iPhone-like gestures, multitasking

Slide-out keyboard
Friendlier for e-mail, text?

Exclusive to Sprint
No GSM, no overseas roaming

Price unknown
Cost crucial for competition

10:54 a.m. PST: The consensus sentiment here is that Palm needs a home run if it is to compete with the likes of Apple and RIM.

10:55 a.m.: In very un-Palm-like fashion, the company has managed to keep a tight lid on the details of what it has in store, making this one of the most dramatic moments of the show.

11:00 a.m.: It's a swank room with a video playing on a giant video wall amid dim lights. Chairs are mixed in with wood end tables stocked with Smartwater and another fruity water called Function.

11:02 a.m.: Speech starting. Ex-Appler Jon Rubinstein, Palm's executive chairman, takes the stage. "Some of you are wondering what I am doing here at Palm."

11:03 a.m.: He notes that he moved to Mexico after leaving Apple. One day, he got a call from Elevation Partners' Roger McNamee and Fred Anderson (ex-Apple CEO).

"I was a pretty busy guy in Mexico," he said, showing a picture of himself in a hammock.

11:04 a.m.: He said that Ed Colligan (Palm's CEO) made a compelling pitch to help restore innovation at Palm.

Ed Colligan, Palm CEO

Ed Colligan, Palm CEO

(Credit: Corinne Schulze/CNET Networks)

11:05 a.m.: Rubinstein intros Ed Colligan.

11:07 a.m.: Colligan notes the company is looking forward. When Palm launched the original Pilot, it wasn't trying to compete with the Newton. "We thought about competing with pen and paper"

"Mobile is in our DNA," Colligan said. "We don't do computers...We don't do refrigerators."

11:08 a.m.: Colligan teases the new stuff, but takes us down Memory Lane. Talking about original Pilot.

11:11 a.m.: Talks about the Treo and how it helped stave off an era where everyone was carrying too many devices. But there's a new problem, he said. That's that information is all over the place: work systems, Gmail, Facebook, etc.

11:12 a.m.: Wouldn't it be nice if your contacts in Outlook showed up with the photos you have of them that are on Facebook? That's what we want to do, he said.

11:13 a.m.: "There are capabilities of it that can't be done on the desktop."

It's called the Palm WebOS.

"It was built with developers in mind." Built on standard Web tools: HTML, Javascript, etc. "No new languages to learn, period."

Jon Rubinstein

Jon Rubinstein, Palm's executive chairman, holding the Pre

(Credit: Corinne Schulze/CNET Networks)

11:14 a.m.: Talking about how the first device needed to be killer. (well, that's one thing everyone agrees on.)

11:15 a.m.: Bringing Rubinstein on to show first device running the new operating system. Device is the Palm Pre (rhymes with gee)

"The design was inspired by nature." Looks a bit like a shorter, rounder iPhone. Perhaps more similar to HTC Touch in looks.

11:16 a.m.: It's got EvDO rev a, Bluetooth stereo, 802.11 b/g Wi-Fi, Ti's latest OMAP 3430 processor, 8GB storage, GPS.

11:17 a.m.: 3.1 inch display, 320x480 resolution, touchscreen all the way to center button so you can make gestures below the screen.

It has an ambient light sensor, accelerometer, 3.0 megapixel camera with LED flash, speaker and removable battery.

11:18 a.m.: He hasn't shown a pulldown keyboard, but I am expecting that.

11:19 a.m.: And here it is, with a fold-out curved keyboard. "It's great to use touchscreen devices... but sometimes you want to jam out e-mail or an instant message, and one of those cheesy virtual keyboards just wont cut it."

Pre

Pre

(Credit: Corinne Schulze/CNET Networks)

11:20 a.m.: Shows it compared to the shadows of some leading smartphones (looked like an iPhone and a BlackBerry). Anyway, it's smaller.

11:21 a.m.: Now on-stage, Matias Duarte who is demoing the OS in action.

11:22 a.m.: Touch scrolling through content seems quite similar to HTC's Touch and the iPhone, notes CNET phone maven Bonnie Cha, who is sitting next to me.

11:24 a.m.: The new part is the gesture pad below the screen. Swiping backwards takes you back a layer in the user interface. A swipe up brings up an application layer. That part is kind of cool.

11:27 a.m.: Can switch between multiple applications (or activities) by scrolling between activities the way one navigates tabs on the iPhone's Safari browser.

One neat thing is that even as one is switching between applications, they are live.

Pre touchscreen

Pre touchscreen

(Credit: Corinne Schulze/CNET Networks)

11:28 a.m.: "You just have these cards that you can shuffle and sort," Matias Duarte said.

11:29 a.m.: Contacts list is a single list, but merges multiple types of contacts, such as Outlook, Google, and Facebook.

"I don't get duplicate entries," he says.

(I wonder how it deals with conflicts.)

11:30 a.m.: The same approach is taken to Calendar, where it merges your Google Calendar and your Outlook, color coded for which calendar type it came from.

11:34 a.m.: Synergy (as Palm calls this method of merging multiple data sources) is also used with e-mail. You have the option of viewing e-mail accounts separately. Or you can view a merged box. It will automatically reply from the right e-mail account (or you can specify a different one). Also, when you want to e-mail someone, you get the options of all your contacts, regardless of which account they came from.

11:35 a.m.: This method of merging multiple sources seems very elegant. Some other operating systems offer multiple e-mail accounts, but bringing this to calendars and contacts--especially this smoothly--is pretty cool, as is the elegant way of handling multitasking.

11:36 a.m.: There's also one messaging app for handling IM conversations and text messaging applications in one place.

Applies it to multiple accounts, letting you move a conversation from, say IM to text message, if someone goes offline.

11:37 a.m.: "This allows me to focus on the person, not on the technology," Duarte said.

11:39 a.m.: To search, you just start typing. It will first look for applications or contacts that match the typing. Once it stops finding matches on the device, it will let you search Google, Maps, or Wikipedia.

"This is the fastest way to find anything, on the device or on the Web," Duarte said.

11:40 a.m.: That takes us to the Web browser. Zooming and panning similar to the iPhone.

11:41 a.m.: Can open multiple tabs. Bookmarks show up as icons. Can enter either a search term or Web address in a single bar at the top.

11:42 a.m.: He demos the browser on SFGate.com, scrolls to the bottom with a picture of some little creatures and the headline "Joy of Vole Sex: The critters and lovin' feelings come from hormones they share with humans."

Lots of laughter

11:45 a.m.: Notifications (IMs, alarms, text messages, etc.) show up at the bottom of the screen. Any developer can use them.

11:50 a.m.: Bonnie Cha's take so far: It's a good step for Palm and it's pretty good competition for the iPhone. Plus, it appears to be a CDMA phone, so could offer some hope to those tied to non-AT&T carriers. Also appears to be far more user friendly than Blackberry Storm, she says.

Rubinstein's back. How does Pre charge? Wireless charger called TouchStone that lets you charge by setting it on the paperweight-like charger. No cord.

Wireless charger, TouchStone

Wireless charger, TouchStone

(Credit: Corinne Schulze/CNET Networks)

11:51 a.m.: Now Rubinstein's doing a recap. Ed Colligan's back, hopefully to offer the when's, who's offering and not least, how much will we have to pay?

11:52 a.m.: "We think it's the one phone you can use for your entire life," Colligan said.

Dan Hesse from Sprint

Dan Hesse from Sprint

(Credit: Corinne Schulze/CNET Networks)

Exclusive launch partner: Sprint.

Dan Hesse, CEO of Sprint, being welcomed on stage. (He's the guy in all those commercials).

11:54 a.m.: Hesse talks about how you can be on a call, check your calendar and send an e-mail all at the same time.

11:58 a.m.: He's talking about how great their network is and how much less expensive their plans are.

11:59 a.m.: He's going on and on. Kind of killing the buzz that Palm had built.

Taking pre-registrations now on Sprint's site. Ed's back. Finally.

12:00 p.m.: Pre will be available through Sprint, in the first half of 2009. "We are going to do that as soon as possible.

Still has to be finalized and go through certification, he said.

12:01 p.m.: List of partners: Facebook, Pandora, Google, Amazon.com, MobiTV, TeleNav, AOL and a bunch more I didn't get a chance to write down.

Palm partners

Palm partners

(Credit: Corinne Schulze/CNET Networks)

12:02 p.m.: Now on stage, Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg. She notes Facebook now at 150 million users.

Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg

Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg

(Credit: Corinne Schulze/CNET Networks)

12:05 p.m.: 20.8 million people using Facebook on mobile devices. Facebook likes that, as mobile users are far more active than those who don't use it on their cell phone.

12:06 p.m.: Colligan's back, and we're recapping again. I'll let you all scroll up if you want a recap.

12:06 p.m.: Colligan said he expects hundreds of thousands of developers in the coming months.

12:07 p.m.: Still no price yet.

12:08 p.m.: He's thanking the team. Notes that the entire Palm team is watching in Sunnyvale, as team is shown in a still photo.

12:09 p.m.: "This platform is going to be the basis for innovation for a decade to come," Colligan said.

12:09 p.m.: And the keynote ends, with no price info.

12:20 p.m.: Caught Tim Bajarin of Creative Strategies on way out. Said he got his hands on the Pre and said the design is quite slick and the features more robust than he expected. "This at least gets them back in the game."

Originally posted at Wireless
During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by mikeburek January 8, 2009 11:34 AM PST
It's sounding like exactly what I want.
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by AlanHub January 8, 2009 11:48 AM PST
looks cool as long as it isnt an iphone, though it is strangely reminiscent of one
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by mikeburek January 8, 2009 12:38 PM PST
What would be non-iPhone? Is everything with a touch screen iPhone-like? Is everything that is all screen and no buttons iPhone-like?
by lmasanti January 8, 2009 12:00 PM PST
What were doing all that people two years ago? (Other than in Mexico.)<br />Why they did not think of this "before" the iPhone?<br />("Necessity" --a.k.a. less sales-- is the mother of all inventions!)
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by sreejithr January 10, 2009 12:34 AM PST
this was developed by an ex-apple employee...so that was why
by wiseguy6789 January 8, 2009 12:01 PM PST
When'll it be available on sprint?? I'm stoked! Great replacement for my already defunct Treo 800w!!
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by meisenburger January 8, 2009 12:06 PM PST
Already have an iPhone 3G - I don't need to downgrade to this...
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by celsius0010 January 8, 2009 2:12 PM PST
Downgrade?? reread the specs on this real quick.. lol funny how you guys think the appstore is a "feature" palm and whindows literally have at least TEN times the apps available... My touch pro beats the crap outta your iphone.. I love pulling up web pages in skyfire and seeing peoples faces when videos play on youtube lol... The iphone is nice but its not even the best phone on At&#38;t.. Jus because its the best phone for you doesnt mean for me or anyone else.. My touch pro can do twice as many things and Id rather have a small samsung m520 for making calls and quck texts.. I have MORE minutes when you add BOTH phones for LESS than ONE iphone plan... and my m520 is just as feature rich.. You might have to make some trade offs like multi touch or multi tasking.. But my free ninety nine phone has alot of stuff the iphone DOESNT..
by Rants&Raves January 8, 2009 12:09 PM PST
Can I sync my Palm Desktop stuff with (or... sigh.... to) it or is it just a web-and-Outlook thing ?
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by haub123 January 8, 2009 12:16 PM PST
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by baisa January 8, 2009 12:16 PM PST
Will it support older phones like the Treo 650? Or is it only for new phones?
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by ittesi259 January 8, 2009 12:50 PM PST
They are advertising a new phone, the new WebOS isn't going to be offered for other phones.
by TMU1006 January 8, 2009 12:19 PM PST
No price point . . . I smell big $$$$$. If they don't undercut the iPhone on price, they've got another problem. I love the look of this toy, but I'm not happy about Sprint (hey, AT&#38;T's got the other Palms, right?).
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by steel36 January 8, 2009 12:21 PM PST
I had my fingers crossed when I saw the CDMA specs, but it all fell flat w/ the Sprint announcement. One day, somebody's going to get a clue and make a non-Windows Mobile phone for all of the people out there who actually require a phone that can get a signal. It's unbelievable: Verizon has hands-down the best service, but is now the last and only of the major carriers to not have a non-WM OS. Maybe we'll have an Android option before the year is out, like that powerhouse, T-mobile. It's like releasing the latest HDtv in a 3rd world country: it looks great on the showroom floor, but what do you do with it when you get it home?
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by ittesi259 January 8, 2009 12:51 PM PST
Since when is the BlackBerry Storm a Windows Mobile phone?
by celsius0010 January 8, 2009 2:21 PM PST
Verizon doesnt like phones they cant control.... Android is open, Palm is pretty open, and apple wants to be a full fledged partner.. Verizons corporate policy is VERY stuffy and is not attractive to smart phone makers at all... They have a terrible history with palm.. Sprint has always had the best relationship with Windows, Palm, and HTC.. Thats why sprint got the centro 700wx, touch, mogul, touch pro, touch diamond first... Verizon never even got already dead 800w, and Palm converted the Treo Pro to cdma for sprint before At&#38;t could even get the version thats already gsm.. <br /> <br />And sprint might suck for you but for America as a whole it is MUCH better than At&#38;t.. Here in so cal JD Power rated sprint as the best network.... And AT&#38;t has been having alot of outages lately.. Sprint and Verizon DONT get those...
by Omachka January 8, 2009 4:51 PM PST
Ummm, you should go on into your Verizon store. I've had my Palm 700P through Verizon for a couple of years now and there are several others that aren't Windows Mobile based in there as well. <br /><br />To celcius 0010 maybe I missed where Verizon had problems with Palm or that smart phone makers steer clear but I've had great service and I love my Palm that I have through them. So far no problems with Verizon or Palm at this end.
by snessnyc January 10, 2009 2:44 PM PST
Am I missing something? What do you think my Verizon Palm Centro is running on? And BTW - I love it! The Palm OS might be old, but it still does some things, like appointments, better than anyone else. I don't mind the tiny keyboard (it helps keep the overall device small and pocketable) and the browser is adequate for most things, especially on the VZW 3G network. And in my experience, Palm and VZW seem to play very well together.
by cottonrohrscheib January 8, 2009 12:24 PM PST
I am pretty excited about the launch of this product, unfortunately I am w/ AT&#38;T, wonder how long it will take them to get this device or one similar?
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by Hep Cat January 8, 2009 12:26 PM PST
LOL@the wireless charger and Sheryl Sandberg. Partners? Does that mean an App Store? Thos 20 million mobile FaceBook users are all on iPhones!<br /><br />The wireless charger is a great idea with laughable execution - who wants to put that oddly-shaped thing in their bag? Obvously, it is bigger than the phone...and there's no indication it can use conventional chargers. At least the iPhone can use every single one of the billions of iPod USB chargers in existence.
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by mikeburek January 8, 2009 12:39 PM PST
It uses their new OS?
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by linuxgeek90 January 8, 2009 12:43 PM PST
I'm stoked.<br /><br />All looks great, except it'll probably be $500.
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by ozznom January 8, 2009 12:47 PM PST
2 years too late to be groundbreaking, 12 months too late to save them. :(
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by alexacker January 8, 2009 1:19 PM PST
As a former treo 700 user on VZW, I 'm now am an iPhone user. Nonewithstanding, thing new Palm is awesome... Too bad, I won't switch back to verizon tho. Palm, you came out with something great but two years too late.
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by iBuzz January 8, 2009 1:34 PM PST
This is exactly who I want to see in this space: Apple, Palm, and Google. RIM and Microsoft with their out-dated OSes and interfaces can go home.
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by osantosg January 8, 2009 1:38 PM PST
I used to be a Palm user since Palm V, went thru 5 models, I can say that for years Palm was the head runner, but after the iPhone even with this new Pre it's still going to be another want-to-be iPhone killer. I got the iPhone this december and even with it's actual flaws (fixable in future updates) it has enormous potential, just take a look a the 10,000 apps and growing in less than a year. I have a feeling that Apple will let us have new features like video in future updates little by little. By the way, for iPhone users out there, there's a free app called Vringo, that let's you sync your iPhone contacts with your facebook contacts so that you can get the photos you need to complete the profiles. Here's the link:<br />http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=288710418&#38;mt=8
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by CRACKnberry January 8, 2009 1:49 PM PST
finally sprint gets something hott, i was at ces and the os is jus plain sick, what andriod was suppose to be.
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by AppleSuxLeo January 8, 2009 2:52 PM PST
I fully agree. Android looks half-baked compared to this.
by ace10134 January 8, 2009 1:58 PM PST
WOW I want this! <br /> <br />:( Don't have Sprint :(
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