January 7, 2008 9:03 PM PST

iRiver W7 MP3 player hankers for directions

by Jasmine France
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Now here's something you don't see everyday: an MP3 player with GPS capabilities. The new iRiver W7, one of a slew of devices the company has on display at CES 2008, doesn't come with a built-in GPS antenna. Rather, you have the option to buy a car mount cradle that adds the functionality. The fact that the antenna is part of the cradle and not the player is actually quite compelling: it means the player can stay relatively compact and impressively thin for pocketability during "on-the-go" use, while still offering a handy navigational feature for the car. Sure, more than a handful of cell phones offer built-in GPS features, but the W7's 3-inch touch screen puts most phones' screens to shame.

iRiver doesn't skimp out on the multimedia features, either. The W7 supports music, video, photos, text, and Flash games. There's also an FM tuner (not that you'd need that in the car), an E-Dictionary, and a microSD card slot for adding more memory. The player will come in two flash memory options: 4GB and 8GB.

The W7 is due out in the U.S. at the end of Q1 or the beginning of Q2, and pricing has yet to be determined for the States. Let's just hope the European price tag of 175 Euros for the 4GB and 215 Euros for the 8GB isn't something to go by, because that's going to make it one pricey player--current conversions put that at $257 and $315, respectively.

For more than five years, Jasmine France has covered a variety of tech products for CNET--from scanners to keyboards to GPS devices--but she's happiest where she is now: sitting atop a pile of MP3 players, "testing" every music service known to man, and jamming a variety of earbuds in every shape and color into her absurdly small ears. E-mail Jasmine.
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by juyoung777 January 8, 2008 9:21 PM PST
cnet, it's stylised as "iriver" not "iRiver" now.
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by bodotdot1 January 9, 2008 8:19 AM PST
Any word as to the pricing of the GPS car mount cradle?
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by Alegoo92 January 9, 2008 2:18 PM PST
Jee look at that design! Originality at it's best!

Oh no... *rotate 90 degress clockwise, make black/shiny*

OMG IRIVER!
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by laaack January 10, 2008 1:22 PM PST
hay, what's Q1 and Q2 supposed to mean
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by Jasmineflower January 10, 2008 4:29 PM PST
Sorry about that...it's first quarter and second quarter...IOW, you can expect it out in the U.S. around April-ish. (Assuming it comes out end of Q1/beginning of Q2 as planned.)
by icsmallpeople January 10, 2008 7:03 PM PST
There's Q3 as well.
by hellhound63 January 19, 2008 1:57 PM PST
quarter one and quarter 2
by PenaltyKillah January 10, 2008 3:47 PM PST
Ha, the iriver W7 was announced and released ONE YEAR AGO. As the W10. Even made an appearance at CES 2007. And this is a winner, when there are so many better players to choose from. Like the iriver clix+. It got a site-high 8.7 rating! So is the Archos 605 WiFi. And there's the Creative ZEN, iPod touch, the Samsung Yepp YP-P2... Hell, even iriver's SPINN has more innovative controls than that W7... And yeah, it's iriver, not iRiver. Man, Jasmine. You got the easiest job in the world. No one gives a rat's ass on DAPs or PMPs, thanks to the iPod. (That's because everyone's crazy over the "biggest HDTV" or the "slimmest cellphones", eh?) Best Buy flyers are filled with iPods and "Creative MP3 players", "SanDisk MP3 players", "Samsung MP3 players"... what's with the favouritism? It's time to stop making the iPod killers look stupid. And please CNET, start concentrating on video and photo features, accessories, anything else but audio. I've had enough with earphones and speakers and all those audio accompaniments with the players. It's PORTABLE MEDIA PLAYERS now, NOT MP3 players. Ok? Oh yeah, tell Donald to take the Philips GoGear Jukebox player off his Top 5 hard-drive list. It's pretty embarrassing that he calls himself a Senior Editor, eh? That player has been here for years, and it's not exactly on par with the others, eh? And what are two obselette players doing in the PVP section (the Archos AV500 and the Archos 504), when there are the Archos 705 WiFi, the Cowon A3, Cowon Q5W, or even this iriver W7, which just won Best of CES? You better update that list, Donald. It's seriously reeking of old Rios and NOMADs.
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by Cruton January 10, 2008 8:04 PM PST
lol, nice people skills. Thanks for the chuckle!
by cummjejp2 January 11, 2008 8:52 PM PST
I definitely agree with focusing on photo features. Focus on audio and then video. I couldn't give a rat's *** about photo features.
by chltmdwp2 January 13, 2008 7:50 PM PST
wth... iriver may not be popular in US but it's popular around the world... and ipod has crappy sound, and no cracy features as iriver or any other players...
by inflammable January 18, 2008 8:40 PM PST
I agree with you except for the comment about the old generation of Archos... actually the AV500 is still one of the best players... with great screen and features... some that you cant find in any ipod touch or phone.... (built in IR for included remote control, removable battery, usb host for tranferring and extra storage and if plug it can even charge usb powered devices...) So I still think the AV500 deserve the place for the moment....
by audiodonald January 10, 2008 4:23 PM PST
Hey Killah,
The Best of CES awards are meant to recognize new products announced at CES. The Clix, 605, Zen, etc., are great products, but they weren't announced at CES 2008. Wondering why the 705, A3, Q5W, and W7 haven't included on the CNET Top PVP list? We haven't reviewed them yet.

Also, the easiest job in the world: being a hater.
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by i m appaulled January 10, 2008 8:05 PM PST
PenaltyKillah......the name pretty much says it all. Hockey mentality.
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by DuckInA.Pond January 11, 2008 3:37 PM PST
The W10 and the W7 are different devices, and the W10 hasn't even been released yet. I'm not quite sure, but I think i remember that the difference was that the W10 as Wi-Fi. And it wasnt released a year ago, it was only a couple months ago. Also, audio is the most important part of an mp3 player... and they're still called mp3 players.
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by PenaltyKillah January 13, 2008 3:36 PM PST
Wow, that certainly was a quick reply from the both of you. I assumed you would be stressed out from CES or something.

I'd like to apologize, once again, for the tirade I've caused in my nearly-fanatical email a few days ago. It certainly is disappointing, this year's DAP/PMP turnout at CES (I mean, iriver was, like, that event's Apple!), and I hope you'll point that out during your next podcast. I'm sure there's a whole load of peeps like me who are confused, or even frustrated, on the iriver W7 being selected as the Best of CES, and they want to know why. And I'm sorry for listing other better players as I didn't know they weren't presented on that event. So thanks for explaining how the Best of CES awards were selected, and thanks to Don for giving an efforted explanation on his Editor's Top Players list. I do hope you'd change it, including those obselette players, once the reviews on the newer players are done.
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by StonedLogic January 13, 2008 8:19 PM PST
@ laaack:
Q = quarter
as in yearly quarter.

duh...
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by suchinlee January 14, 2008 9:42 AM PST
Jasmine, you don't have to wait for the W7. The Cowon Q5W has GPS capability too (using an optional GPS cradle). And it's already available at JetMall.net (Cowon's own online store). The only drawback is the price. The Q5W starts at $549.99 for a 40GB version and the GPS cradle costs $199.99. If you don't mind the hefty price, you can have what the W7 has right NOW.

You can also read the Q5W at http://gadgetaholic.com
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by PenaltyKillah January 15, 2008 5:21 PM PST
Owch. That's a not-so-regrettable mistake. And I heard that the iriver Lplayer or the SPINN could be making an American arrival.

Anyway, I reluctantly stand by the choice... Looking back at the past 'Best of CES' winners, including three Creative players that weren't exactly the best of their class (Zen Portable Media Center, 1st Microsoft PMC, ZEN MicroPhoto, ZEN Vision:M), though I'm from Singapore so woohoo, and a Sansa with its overhyped online radio/channels... turns out it wasn't that much of a trend.

So you can't really pick the winner of that award as the best of the previous year, but more like a "Best Example of a Potential Pioneer for Upcoming Players". I'd pick the Zen PMC, since it was the 1st PMC, and one of those pre-iPod video PMPs.
by PenaltyKillah January 15, 2008 5:22 PM PST
Owch. That's a not-so-regrettable mistake. And I heard that the iriver Lplayer or the SPINN could be making an American arrival.

Anyway, I reluctantly stand by the choice... Looking back at the past 'Best of CES' winners, including three Creative players that weren't exactly the best of their class (Zen Portable Media Center, 1st Microsoft PMC, ZEN MicroPhoto, ZEN Vision:M), though I'm from Singapore so woohoo, and a Sansa with its overhyped online radio/channels... turns out it wasn't that much of a trend.

So you can't really pick the winner of that award as the best of the previous year, but more like a "Best Example of a Potential Pioneer for Upcoming Players". But the only real 'pioneer' is the Zen PMC, since it was the 1st PMC, and one of those pre-iPod video PMPs.
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by DRKczmarek January 16, 2008 12:05 PM PST
I have to agree with some of the points made here. The "editor's top MP# players" lists make no sense. On the top 5 list the Nano is second with The Creative Zen V Plus in 4th and the Clix 2 in 5th. When you look at the top flash player list though the Clix 2 is number 1 with the V Plus being 2nd and the Sony being 3rd. The Nano is 7th. How did it make second on the top 5 then!

Donald noted that they can't rank some because they haven't reviewed them yet. People turn to this site for your "expert" advise. It seems that they will find what they best MP3 player was 4 months ago. We all know how quickly the DAP arena changes and evolves, making the info here out-of-date. I know Jasmine may not be able to review DAPs the day they come out, but the lag is to long. There are so many great DAPs that need reviewed!

If you really want up-to-date opinions on current DAPs go to Head-fi.org. If you want to know what will be released 3 quarters from now, then come to cnet.
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by francisc0121 February 25, 2008 3:50 PM PST
i have a question... for the people that have used this (hopefully someone from Cnet)

i am getting this MP3 from south korea in less than a month, and i'm wondering if the GPS works in north america.

also on iriver korea's site it does not say if the 8 GB version comes on violet or white (while the 4 GB lets you pick) im wondering if the 8 GB comes in violet colour

third, does the W7 have an option that lets you change the language to english? and does E-dictionary come in english?

and my last question is, does the W7's touch screen let you touch anything? and control anything? if so, what's the joystick for??

thx for reading... if you read

PS - im pretty sure that there's a mini SD card slot, not a micro SD (source: iriver korea website)
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by francisc0121 February 25, 2008 5:27 PM PST
oh another thing that's been bothering me about the W7,

lots of people say how iriver ripped off the P2 (which i am getting now, a little too quick to change but i was influenced by my brother to get that instead of the W7) made by samsung, and yes we know, but its not what you think.

infact they did not COPY they TOOK their design, and with permission.

if you look at iriver korea's website, there is a picture.
the picture is a silhouette of the P2, and the W7 rotating out of it.

so i hope no one says that they stole their design or anything because iriver IS aware of it.
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