January 7, 2008 11:00 AM PST

EchoStar TR-50: HD DVR for the antenna crowd

EchoStar TR-50 HD DVR

EchoStar TR-50: An HD DVR for those without cable or satellite

(Credit: EchoStar)

If you think everybody has cable or satellite, you couldn't be more wrong. In fact, if you live in an area that's well-served by digital broadcasters, now's a better time than ever to get your TV over the air (or "OTA," as the cool kids say): yeah, you get only a handful of channels, but they're in crystal-clear digital quality--DVD quality at "worst," uncompressed high-definition at best. The problem--as we're reminded by many an e-mailer--is that there just isn't a good DVR solution for the rabbit-ears crowd, especially if you prefer high-def. (You can opt for a TiVo HD, but you'd still have to pay a monthly fee for their programming guide.) But that may finally be changing, thanks to the EchoStar TR-50. For all intents and purposes, the TR-50 takes many of the features found on Dish Networks' excellent satellite DVRs (such as the ViP622 and 722) and brings them to antenna-based TV viewers.

The unit offers ATSC and NTSC tuners, so it can view and record over-the-air HD digital, standard digital, and analog channels. Dual tuner action means you can watch (and record) one live channel while simultaneously recording a second--or record two channels while playing back a previously recorded show. There's also full control over live TV, including rewind, pause, slow motion, 10-second "instant replay," and--for recordings--30-second skip. The TR-50 also sports a 7-day electronic program guide (using over-the-air metadata on the digital band), which should eliminate the pesky VCR-style manual "timer recordings" (you remember: "8:00-9:00 p.m. / Thursdays / channel 4"). The box also has a full range of outputs, including component and HDMI (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i resolutions supported), as well as standard-def composite and RF outputs for older TVs. Dish hasn't yet specified the internal hard drive size, but the USB 2.0 connector will ensure expandable storage. Perhaps most interestingly, the TR-50 includes an Ethernet port and the ability to decode MPEG-4 video, and EchoStar touts its ability to "access premium Internet-based TV programming via broadband Internet," as well as "DVR management and timer creation via Internet"--though the timeframe for such features wasn't disclosed. Likewise, the exact release date and pricing information remain a mystery. But if it's affordable--and lacks TiVo's monthly fee--the TR-50 may be the perfect fit for TV viewers without satellite or cable who still want to enjoy HD programming on their own schedule.

Separately, EchoStar also announced the TR-40. That model is merely a digital set-top box (no DVR). It will let analog TV owners (or those with HD monitors that lack a tuner) receive digital and high-def signals over the air--a necessity after the scheduled February 2009 analog TV shutdown.

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by peterj_1992 January 8, 2008 6:49 PM
Yes! Eversince we've gotten our samsung HDTV and home theatre system (last year boxing day), I've been constantly looking and dvd/hdd recorders and none of them seemed to have an atsc tuner. I was extremely suprised when a few months ago stores just stopped selling them (if someone can explain that to me that would be helpful), and this is just what I've been looking for! (with the absence of a dvd burner.) I just hope they wont have a monthly fee like tivo, because i hate tivo
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by notuptodate January 11, 2008 6:52 AM
For those of us in "OTA" land and old TV's - this looks great - for my 1.5 hrs. a day of TV viewing - I hope they price it next year so I can afford 1 for each TV ? or just need 1 for the house (4 TV's)
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by BiffSedgewick January 11, 2008 8:04 AM
VCR's should have naturally migrated to this type of box instead of paying a chunk of change for a box, then a load it with pay services that Tivo and Replay offered. The VCR+ code should have been added to the box just like the VCR days and a start, stop time for recording, then an option to add a premium service like TV guide for even easier recording mgmt. All Rights Reserved, Tivo, Replay, etc. Most people are likely to pay for services like that, instead saving money for retirement. You can't walk out your door today and not be tempted with all kinds of pay for services.
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by brittonv January 11, 2008 8:30 AM
I would have to say Windows Media Center Blows this away.
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by Andymanout January 11, 2008 3:25 PM
Hey brittonv, could you elaborate on that claim? I have heard some negatives re: vista and media center. Andyman Out!
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by RedHedd January 12, 2008 10:00 AM
I want it! Where/when can I get it?
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by photog_7 January 12, 2008 12:48 PM
Monthly fees are a part of EchoStar's DNA. I doubt this will be any different.
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by send2rick1 January 12, 2008 2:33 PM
It does make you wonder who is paying for the program guide if the user is not. Will there be advertising for that? Not that I would mind; if I could get TiVo type features for free. But if the service is unsuccessful and stops; will I still be able to program it manually like a VCR or will I be left with an expensive paper weight? This link reveals the HD size "250GB" http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=972197 This link (video of it) states that software updates can be downloaded through the ethernet port. So will there be charges for that? http://www.cnettv.com/9742-1_53-31894.html If you are listening Echostar; a Firwire port would be nice. Also wondering if the hard drive will show up on a network through the ethernet port on my computer and what operating system it uses; Linux like most of the others? Anyone know?
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by brittonv January 14, 2008 9:15 AM
I have a couple of HD Tuners in my XP Media center PC. I have a 1.5 TB Drive and can watch what ever I want where ever I want (Where ever I have an Xbox that is) I can't speak to Vista, as I haven't downgraded yet.
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by Tvwonderman January 23, 2008 8:49 AM
I think this is a great innovation, and will sell well if priced right. However, regarding "there just isn't a good DVR solution for the rabbit-ears crowd", there actually is a very good solution, and it's right under the nose of a lot of people. Microsoft Media Center is a fabulous DVR and overall media access solution. The Echostar box definitely has the advantage of being a dedicated box nicely packaged as an appliance, and it's a great solution. But for those who seek all that and more, and who are willing to put a tuner in their PC and connect it to their TV either direct or via an extender, Media Center is a great option. with Media Center, I run full HD 1920x1080, and along with my 14 channels of free HD from my antenna (complete with 5.1 audio, and 25+ total channels), I get a fantastic full-blown EPG, movie posters/ratings/reviews, full DVR with advanced features like keyword and future DVR scheduling, full uncompressed signal, and can access all my home videos, all my music, as well as my subscription music service and internet video, Yahoo Sports for MCE, weather, and many other apps built for the platform. I can record two HD shows while watching a third recorded HD show. And I can access all this content from anywhere in the house, or across the internet. And other than the cost of the PC itself and some setup time, all this is *completely free*. That's hard to beat!
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