EchoStar TR-50: HD DVR for the antenna crowd
EchoStar TR-50: An HD DVR for those without cable or satellite
(Credit: EchoStar)If you think everybody has cable or satellite, you couldn't be more wrong. In fact, if you live in an area that's well-served by digital broadcasters, now's a better time than ever to get your TV over the air (or "OTA," as the cool kids say): yeah, you get only a handful of channels, but they're in crystal-clear digital quality--DVD quality at "worst," uncompressed high-definition at best. The problem--as we're reminded by many an e-mailer--is that there just isn't a good DVR solution for the rabbit-ears crowd, especially if you prefer high-def. (You can opt for a TiVo HD, but you'd still have to pay a monthly fee for their programming guide.) But that may finally be changing, thanks to the EchoStar TR-50. For all intents and purposes, the TR-50 takes many of the features found on Dish Networks' excellent satellite DVRs (such as the ViP622 and 722) and brings them to antenna-based TV viewers.
The unit offers ATSC and NTSC tuners, so it can view and record over-the-air HD digital, standard digital, and analog channels. Dual tuner action means you can watch (and record) one live channel while simultaneously recording a second--or record two channels while playing back a previously recorded show. There's also full control over live TV, including rewind, pause, slow motion, 10-second "instant replay," and--for recordings--30-second skip. The TR-50 also sports a 7-day electronic program guide (using over-the-air metadata on the digital band), which should eliminate the pesky VCR-style manual "timer recordings" (you remember: "8:00-9:00 p.m. / Thursdays / channel 4"). The box also has a full range of outputs, including component and HDMI (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i resolutions supported), as well as standard-def composite and RF outputs for older TVs. Dish hasn't yet specified the internal hard drive size, but the USB 2.0 connector will ensure expandable storage. Perhaps most interestingly, the TR-50 includes an Ethernet port and the ability to decode MPEG-4 video, and EchoStar touts its ability to "access premium Internet-based TV programming via broadband Internet," as well as "DVR management and timer creation via Internet"--though the timeframe for such features wasn't disclosed. Likewise, the exact release date and pricing information remain a mystery. But if it's affordable--and lacks TiVo's monthly fee--the TR-50 may be the perfect fit for TV viewers without satellite or cable who still want to enjoy HD programming on their own schedule.
Separately, EchoStar also announced the TR-40. That model is merely a digital set-top box (no DVR). It will let analog TV owners (or those with HD monitors that lack a tuner) receive digital and high-def signals over the air--a necessity after the scheduled February 2009 analog TV shutdown.
John P. Falcone covers home theater and network entertainment products. He's been writing for CNET since 2002.
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http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/dvr/product.asp?model=d-vr650
It's not the only one in this DVD-Recorder segement with ATSC...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_recorder#Comparison_of_2007_ATSC_DVD_recorders_in_U.S.A.
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Sounds like a great box for the OTA folks like myself. Ethernet and USB storage are nice touches great for getting files in and out of the box.
Dvico already makes a TVIX box that can do this with an optional ATSC tuner but it's not very polished and cannot record and watch at the same time. I'm hoping this echostar is a more polished version of the TVIX.
This link reveals the HD size "250GB"
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=972197
This link (video of it) states that software updates can be downloaded through the ethernet port. So will there be charges for that?
http://www.cnettv.com/9742-1_53-31894.html
If you are listening Echostar; a Firwire port would be nice.
Also wondering if the hard drive will show up on a network through the ethernet port on my computer and what operating system it uses; Linux like most of the others? Anyone know?
I can't speak to Vista, as I haven't downgraded yet.
Can you tell me exactly what I need to buy in order to have the same setup as you? Keep in mind I am a Mom (40+ in age), who is trying to cut our household budget. We have an antenna, but our currently paying for DISH satellite monthly. You knowledge is greatly appreciated!
I can't wait for this item to hit the market.
I know window media center is a great product, but I don't like the idea of having my computer running just to watch TV.
Will the Echostar be able to do this for me?
Satellite's not an option due to surrounding four and five story buildings (even a powered indoor hd antenna gets nothing), and Comcast's dvr rental would be inanely expensive and widely despised.
Also, let your computer sleep in-between recording programs. It won't use much electricity.
After speaking with Panasonic Customer Service I discovered that my DMR-ES20 will not work without a digital converter after Feb. 2009 - regardless of my built in digital converter in my plasma TV. They told me that I would need a digital converter to record any of the digital stations.
I'm guessing the connections to make this work would be:
1. Antenna wire into the converter IN port
2. Jumper cable from the OUT port of the converter box to the IN port of the DVR
3. Jumper cable from the OUT port of the DVR to the IN port of the TV.
4. Then the converter box would have to be ON at all times to record.
Does anyone out there know if I am on the right track?
My 3rd option is to buy the Panasonic DMR-EZ28.
However, the information on the DISH Network website for the DTVPAL ATSC Coupon Eligible Digital Converter says it has an event timer for recording to VCR's etc.. It goes on sale the week of June 23, according to the website I've been planning to buy from. If you don't really want a DVR, perhaps it would be enough.
"Hello.
Just recently announced, the TR50 will be sold as the DTVPal DVR, and will be available around Thanksgiving for a price of $299. It will be available online through DISH Network. At this time we do not have any information on whether the product will be available through retail outlets. An online information site is planned for the near future. Please check back with us as we get closer to the product launch date.
Thank you for contacting EchoStar.
Regards,
EchoStar Sales Team"
So much for the $49 price huh.
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by ChimaC
September 26, 2008 1:41 PM PDT
- I am sooo ready for this device, hopefully it will won't have any hidden fees associated. Overall, I looked at the media center solution, but that still involves too many signal passes just to watch TV. On the plus side, this really simplifies things in terms of devices, just turn on the TR-50 Box and turn on the TV. The downside with the media center is the PC has to be on, the extender has to be on, the router has to be on, and if the network or PC hangs on you right before a show, you'll most likely be power cycling devices instead of watching TV.
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